By Nora McDougall-Collins
NNFP Director of Web Services
As these blog posts discuss your web site model, the fact that I have never been to Macys.com is a great lesson in understanding why it takes time for a web site to make a profit. I’m not going to talk about how well the site works, or doesn’t work. I’m not going to discuss how beautiful or ugly it is – because I’ve never seen it.
Macy’s does the best job I’ve ever seen of training their staff to remind each and every shopper to visit their site. They are trained so well, it’s completely a part of the purchase conversation without being obnoxiously pushy. But, after a number of years of being reminded to visit the site at least twice a month, I’ve never been to the Macy’s web site. Ouch!
I shop at Macy’s in Missoula, MT very regularly. Between kids, step-kids, kids’ boyfriends and girlfriends, husband, etc, I have a whole lot of presents to buy for birthdays, Easter, and Christmas. In fact, I buy so many men’s size S, M, L, and XL that the fantasic sales lady in the Macy’s Mens Department asks me how all the boys (4 step-sons and 2 sons) are doing every time I’m there. But, I’ve never been to Macy’s web site.
If this sounds like a story about why not to have a web site, IT’S NOT! The actual point is understand who needs your web site and what they want from it.
I do shop online. Just this week, I spent about $100.00 on Amazon.com. But last week, I bought a .NET book from Barnes and Nobles store, instead of online. I have purchased clothing from LandsEnd.com, but never from Dillards.com or Nordstroms.com or Macys.com. Why is that?
Why did I buy two items from Amazon.com and one from a store? Because I already knew what I wanted from Amazon. One of the items is an audio book that is difficult to find. But I wanted to look at several .NET books before I chose one. (The one I got did give some terrible web advice on a few items, but bad examples are great case studies.) Why do I guy soap and lotions online? Because I already know what brand and products I want! I don’t want to waste time going to the bath shop to try to figure out how much mineral oil is in those bath products! Definition of mineral oil: a distillate of petroleum (especially one used medicinally as a laxative or stool softener)
Why did I buy from LandsEnd.com and not from Macys.com? Because we don’t have a Lands End store. I work on the web – all day! I like to go to a store for a half hour of getting away from the computer. I want to look at the clothes and think of who it would look good on. If there is a great sale, I might leave with 20 items. I surely don’t want to pay freight on all that stuff. Personally, I don’t see how Macys.com is going to do anything for me. I don’t want to shop online unless I can get in an out quickly, like in 10 minutes or less; so, why should I go there?
What are the web lessons here?
1. It helps to have an idea what your potential market wants from your web site. At this point in my life, the only thing I want from them is to know if there is a balance on my Macys card. Actually, I should go into their site to say nice things about my favorite sales person!
2. It helps to have an idea who your potential market is! Customers that are already in the Macys store are a pretty good bet.
3. Invite everyone who calls, emails, or walks into your facilities to your web site. They don’t let me forget that there is a Macys site!
4. Don’t give up because people like me don’t go to your site right away! It’s an ongoing process. OK, I gave in and went to the site while I was writing this piece.
5. Don’t fill your web site up with marketing gobble-de-gook that no one wants to read. I searched the Macys front page for less than 10 seconds to find a link to make a comment about the lady in the Men’s Department, but I wouldn’t have searched through several pages to find a comment link. Actually, their programming was very slick and easy to use! Sounds like they really want me to take the time to give them comments.
6. A web site is a great way to make it easy for folks who already know about your product or services to get it without driving somewhere!!!
7. Give your visitors a lot of photos and specifics about your services and products. The fact that you use sustainably harvested wood is lost on me, if I don’t get some great photos of your product.
8. It takes time and effort to get people to use that wonderful web site you just built!!! Sorry, no condo in Spain in 6 months.

